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	<title>Comments on: Joint Ownership</title>
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	<description>Estate Planning information presented in understandable family themes</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nancy Cristy</title>
		<link>http://www.sbshlaw.com/blog/archives/estate-planning/20#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Cristy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding a joint savings account:  If it was opened initially with $24,000 and additional deposits of $50,000 were made that year, would the secondary owner be subject to a gift tax?  Would there be an IRS penalty for not filing the gift tax when the account was opened in 2006?  The primary owner died in August 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding a joint savings account:  If it was opened initially with $24,000 and additional deposits of $50,000 were made that year, would the secondary owner be subject to a gift tax?  Would there be an IRS penalty for not filing the gift tax when the account was opened in 2006?  The primary owner died in August 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig R. Hersch</title>
		<link>http://www.sbshlaw.com/blog/archives/estate-planning/20#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig R. Hersch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In your scenario you describe a transfer of real estate that is currently owned jointly with rights of survivorship to a third party who is not one of the two joint owners. Unless both owners sign the deed, at least in Florida you have an invalid transfer. Both joint owners must sign the deed.

Now let me address a transfer signed by the parties that are necessary. Here, a deathbed quit claim is certainly legal but not prudent from a tax standpoint. 

When one gifts assets during lifetime the beneficiary receives the asset at the grantor's tax cost basis. Contrast this result to the situation where the beneficiary inherits the assets after death, when she receives a step up in tax cost basis equal to fair market value as of the date of death. This step up in tax cost basis at death, often reduces or eliminates the capital gain tax consequence. In your example above, a joint owner would receive a step-up in one half of the value of the home as of the date of death of the joint life owner. 

Since a lifetime gift is a transfer possibly subject to gift tax, then there is no transfer tax advantage for a deathbed transfer. Therefore, the deathbed transfer often doesn't make sense from a capital gains tax standpoint, although competent tax counsel should be consulted in any situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your scenario you describe a transfer of real estate that is currently owned jointly with rights of survivorship to a third party who is not one of the two joint owners. Unless both owners sign the deed, at least in Florida you have an invalid transfer. Both joint owners must sign the deed.</p>
<p>Now let me address a transfer signed by the parties that are necessary. Here, a deathbed quit claim is certainly legal but not prudent from a tax standpoint. </p>
<p>When one gifts assets during lifetime the beneficiary receives the asset at the grantor&#8217;s tax cost basis. Contrast this result to the situation where the beneficiary inherits the assets after death, when she receives a step up in tax cost basis equal to fair market value as of the date of death. This step up in tax cost basis at death, often reduces or eliminates the capital gain tax consequence. In your example above, a joint owner would receive a step-up in one half of the value of the home as of the date of death of the joint life owner. </p>
<p>Since a lifetime gift is a transfer possibly subject to gift tax, then there is no transfer tax advantage for a deathbed transfer. Therefore, the deathbed transfer often doesn&#8217;t make sense from a capital gains tax standpoint, although competent tax counsel should be consulted in any situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If two people who live together but not married own a home jointly with right of survivorship. Can one person on his deathbed quit claim his half to someone other than who he owned the home with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If two people who live together but not married own a home jointly with right of survivorship. Can one person on his deathbed quit claim his half to someone other than who he owned the home with?</p>
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		<title>By: Craig R. Hersch</title>
		<link>http://www.sbshlaw.com/blog/archives/estate-planning/20#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig R. Hersch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not seen a Ladybird will in Florida. About the closest item to this would be a transfer wherein the grantor retains a life estate and transfers the remainder interest to others. Gift tax issues apply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not seen a Ladybird will in Florida. About the closest item to this would be a transfer wherein the grantor retains a life estate and transfers the remainder interest to others. Gift tax issues apply.</p>
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		<title>By: George  Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.sbshlaw.com/blog/archives/estate-planning/20#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>George  Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've heard of something called a "ladybird" will. It allows an asset,like a house, to be given at death but the person that inherits it had no ownership in the property prior to the death of the owner. This is legal in texas. Does florida have a similar law??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard of something called a &#8220;ladybird&#8221; will. It allows an asset,like a house, to be given at death but the person that inherits it had no ownership in the property prior to the death of the owner. This is legal in texas. Does florida have a similar law??</p>
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